tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post113989447525407628..comments2023-10-29T02:22:49.078-05:00Comments on The Jewish Freak: A Jewish Perspective on ChristianityThe Jewish Freakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-31775643846475884542011-12-04T21:52:08.329-05:002011-12-04T21:52:08.329-05:00Good gracious.... where to begin???? I'm a Je...Good gracious.... where to begin???? I'm a Jewish believer in Jesus Our Messiah. I belong to what many on here would label a "fundamental" church. There is no "prize" given for converting a Jewish person. We wish everyone to come to the saving knowledge of Jesus, both Jew, gentile, whoever. When we speak of Jesus to a Jewish person (of whom I'm one), we are not asking them to "stop being Jewish". I am still Jewish. I cannot be "non-Jewish". I am a born Jew, as was Jesus and His disciples. We follow the Bible, both Old and New Testaments. The Old Testament is a foreshadowing of the New Testament.<br />If there were people in the past who used their religion as power of other people, it was because they were "using religion" instead of "having a relationship" with Jesus. Another way of saying this is.....I do not believe in any religion, it's works, or its man-made doctrines. I am a follower of Jesus only and I strive to have a personal relationship with Him. Religion is a man-made construct which in times past has been used as a power-wielding tool over others. I will now take my leave.<br />If anyone wishes to understand more about who the Lord is and Who I worship, read the Bible from the Old Testament to the New Testament and hopefully you too will learn who the real Jesus is. God bless!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-38990523294464417792010-03-10T14:34:15.557-05:002010-03-10T14:34:15.557-05:00Dear Jewish Freak,
As A discouraged and disappoint...Dear Jewish Freak,<br />As A discouraged and disappointed Christian I have to agree wholeheartedly with what you are saying. I read a very enlightening book entitled the Jewish Perspective on Christianity. It is a compilation of essays by such names as Martin Buber, Abraham Heschel, Leon Baech and a few others. This book needs to be on the shelf of every person who has ever asked the the really important questions like: what does God really expect of us and did Jesus really intend to start a new religion?<br /><br />Shalom Shelee Havar. I thing that means peace to you my friend. If not please correct me. Keep on keeping on and God Bless youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1147295250302577402006-05-10T16:07:00.000-05:002006-05-10T16:07:00.000-05:00a.nonymous: What most non-Jews do not understand i...a.nonymous: What most non-Jews do not understand is that the Pharisees are the spiritual (and biological) ancestors of the Jewish people as they are today. "Pharisee" is another way of saying "Jew". If the NT were written today it would be classified (at least by me) as hate literature.The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1147224901174990092006-05-09T20:35:00.000-05:002006-05-09T20:35:00.000-05:00I think Matthew 23 is talking about Pharisees, Ano...I think Matthew 23 is talking about Pharisees, Anonymous. That's why it says "Pharisees".S. Baldrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13213808329508648448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140639436592815992006-02-22T15:17:00.000-05:002006-02-22T15:17:00.000-05:00Atheologist: Thanks for the link. For your info, i...Atheologist: Thanks for the link. For your info, in case you don't know, Reform Judaism is analagous to Unitarian/Universalist. Not saying that's good or bad, only that there's not much religion there.The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140638849162047582006-02-22T15:07:00.000-05:002006-02-22T15:07:00.000-05:00I just came across this today. Is it possible that...I just came across <A HREF="http://jta.org/page_view_story.asp?intarticleid=16053&intcategoryid=4" REL="nofollow">this</A> today. Is it possible that the fundi Christians will now have a little competition? And <A HREF="http://www.canonist.com/?p=501" REL="nofollow">here's</A> a little poll you can take on the subject.The Atheologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16094021492573529808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140178923419744132006-02-17T07:22:00.000-05:002006-02-17T07:22:00.000-05:00JD: Thank you for that great info.I'm very interes...JD: Thank you for that great info.<BR/>I'm very interested.The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140176328423675202006-02-17T06:38:00.000-05:002006-02-17T06:38:00.000-05:00From Publishers WeeklyPart history, part memoir, t...From Publishers Weekly<BR/>Part history, part memoir, this hefty tome by novelist Carroll (Mortal Friends, etc.) traces the record of anti-Semitism and anti-Judaism in the Catholic Church, suggesting that centuries of animus culminated in the Holocaust. Carroll also traces the development of his own thinking about Judaism: as a Catholic seminarian, he knew no Jews and little about Judaism, except what he learned in classrooms, i.e., that Judaism had been superceded by Christ's new covenant. As a young priest at Boston U (which his colleagues disparagingly referred to as B-Jew, since so many Jews were enrolled), Carroll began to spend time with rabbis and Jewish students whose political and social commitments he found congenial. Eventually he left the priesthood; his increased discomfort with the Church's attitudes toward Judaism played no small part in that decision. But this book is more than guilty Catholic breast-beating. It also offers a sweeping look at instances of anti-Jewish sentiment throughout European history, from the blood libel to the Dreyfus affair, from the Inquisition to Auschwitz. Carroll offers fresh, provocative analysis, as in his discussion of the idea that the God of the Jews is a judgmental God concerned with law, whereas Jesus is about loveDa foundation of much anti-Semitism. Carroll argues that Jesus' emphasis on love was his most Jewish attribute. Carroll makes these incisive arguments in his characteristically vigorous prose; fans of An American Requiem, his National Book Award-winning memoir, won't be disappointed. This magisterial work will satisfy Jewish and Christians readers alike, challenging both to a renewed conversation with one another.JDHURFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133971619468463558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140176190283274572006-02-17T06:36:00.000-05:002006-02-17T06:36:00.000-05:00Wow, this was a very good and enlightening post wi...Wow, this was a very good and enlightening post with many comments of the same nature. <BR/>JF, have you heard of Constantine’s Sword: The Church and the Jews – A History by James Caroll? I would recommend it, I usually do not recommend books that I have not fully read but James Caroll is a very progressive Catholic and I read some very good reviews of the book (mostly secular and infidel critics, lol). I certainly do not recommend that you read (I haven’t even read it) but there are some interesting articles and essays based on and inspired by it.JDHURFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133971619468463558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140151026258844762006-02-16T23:37:00.000-05:002006-02-16T23:37:00.000-05:00What you wrote was fascinating, Anonymous. That's...What you wrote was fascinating, Anonymous. That's why I can't get behind the fundie support of Israel. Their motives are selfish. They are only using us in their hopes to bring about the "rapture." I am not interested in such "support."Staceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05548101428086781420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140148150922781352006-02-16T22:49:00.000-05:002006-02-16T22:49:00.000-05:00Conan: Thanks for the compliment. The Jewish peopl...Conan: Thanks for the compliment. The Jewish people can always use a good friend.The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140147741814101432006-02-16T22:42:00.000-05:002006-02-16T22:42:00.000-05:00Anonymous: Thank you for your heartfelt comment. Y...Anonymous: Thank you for your heartfelt comment. You have confirmed everything that I have been saying. I wish you success in your pursuit of happiness. There is much truth and beauty to be found in the Jewish tradition. I think that you will find our emphasis on personal responsibility and accountability to be particularly meaningful considering all that you have been through.<BR/>You have also inspired a future post. Thanks for stopping by!The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140141051876297512006-02-16T20:50:00.000-05:002006-02-16T20:50:00.000-05:00I have found your posts very interesting. I would...I have found your posts very interesting. I would like to present a different point of view to you. Much of what is presented to the general public from the pulpit is somewhat different from what is espoused in closed meetings of the leadership. From the pulpit I would hear the message of the 7 woes at least monthly. This is based on verses from Matthew 23. Jesus speaks these words about the Jews:<BR/><BR/> Jews are basically only concerned with appearance and standing in the community (verses 5-7).<BR/> Jews are hypocrites. Their teachings and laws prevent others from entering heaven (verse 13).<BR/> Jews are more concerned with wealth than the condition of the soul (verses 16-22).<BR/> Jews are more concerned about the letter of the law than justice, mercy, and faithfulness (verses 23 & 24)<BR/> Jews are full of greed and self-indulgence (verse 25).<BR/> Jews are liars, unclean, full of hypocrisy, and wickedness (verse 26).<BR/> Jews are snakes and vipers lying in wait to snare the unsuspecting (verses 33-25)<BR/><BR/>Onto the leadership and closed meetings. The leadership in the “church” is broken down into the membership, the Deacons, the Elders, and the Pastor. The Deacons are elected leaders whose primary concern is the physical care of the church property. The Elders are elected leaders whose primary concern is the religious training of the membership. The Pastor basically is considered an Elder who is not elected and has leadership over all of the above.<BR/><BR/>That being said, I was raised in the Deep South as an evangelical fundamentalist beginning approximately 40 years ago. My father was an Elder. My ex-husband was also an elder. I was privy to most of these meetings, many held in my home. What JF states is true, “I believe that Christians do not regard us as sacred cows, but rather as non-sacred cow dung.” Jews are considered to be the worst hypocrites and fools. Yes, they do set out to convert you. Their rational is, until a specific number of Jews are converted to Christianity Jesus will not return in the rapture to reclaim the Christians to heaven. Jews are nothing more than a means to an end.<BR/><BR/>Presbyterians (PCA) believe that their religion is the only true Christian religion. Those who are not converted should be “dealt with harshly”. Women remain chattel. There is no such thing as divorce. We are allowed to be abused if our husbands feel so inclined. Out of my little Pres. Church alone four women ran from their husbands after they pulled guns on them and threatened to kill them (two of these men were Elders and their behavior was widely known). The women were excommunicated from the church for leaving their husbands against the churches wishes. As a side note – it also produced the man that shot John Lennon.<BR/><BR/>I left the Christian church about 7 years ago and now pursue my Jewish roots (my mother has Jewish history). Be leery of the Fundamentalist. What they say to your face is completely different from their motives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140136302897501412006-02-16T19:31:00.000-05:002006-02-16T19:31:00.000-05:00Thank you for the nice writing. I intend to come b...Thank you for the nice writing. I intend to come back and re-read some of yoru fine arguments. Not religious (ex Catholic) but always have been very pro Israel and Jew. The damn Muslims try to preach black is white and good is bad..meaning their hate filled death cult is some wonderful as they protest and kill all across the globe while they demonize the wonderful Jewish people. Keep up the good work.Conan The Librarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05980708068679065329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140069724128951902006-02-16T01:02:00.000-05:002006-02-16T01:02:00.000-05:00Bacon Eater: Thank you.Bacon Eater: Thank you.The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140066342219649682006-02-16T00:05:00.000-05:002006-02-16T00:05:00.000-05:00JF, here is a Fundy who started off posting on my ...JF, here is a Fundy who started off posting on my board first. I like this dude, he is OK except for the 6000 year old earth and his stance against evolution. But this is another side of the Fundy story:<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/btx2lBaconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140063924908608702006-02-15T23:25:00.000-05:002006-02-15T23:25:00.000-05:00Canadian Bacon:I believe that christians do not re...Canadian Bacon:<BR/><BR/>I believe that christians do not regard us as sacred cows, but rather as non-sacred cow dung. The "chosen people" talk is all just lip service. We are held in contempt because we try to earn our salvation ourselves by being under the law (Jews don't even know what the hell that means), rather than accepting god's grace through jesus'death on the cross.The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140063595131517352006-02-15T23:19:00.000-05:002006-02-15T23:19:00.000-05:00stevin: Thank you!However I do believe that the ch...stevin: Thank you!<BR/>However I do believe that the christians motivation for converting Jews is not out of love for us, but out of contempt for our way of life (and our continued existence).The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140063071919044302006-02-15T23:11:00.000-05:002006-02-15T23:11:00.000-05:00Jewish Freak, don't forget I'm married to a shiksa...Jewish Freak, don't forget I'm married to a shiksah. Maybe things are different in Canada then the bible belt. But I do think real Fundies think of Jews like East Indians think of cows. We are sacred but they don't want to be a cow. I'm trying with my blog. Traffic has picked up lately so I feel the pressure.<BR/>One more thing. Fundies do have lots of powerin the States, and they had a lot more power before Darwin and Nasa came along.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140062520420311062006-02-15T23:02:00.000-05:002006-02-15T23:02:00.000-05:00Sushi: Good insight. Also, I think that their mean...Sushi: Good insight. Also, I think that their means are different because christians do not have the means at their disposal that moslems do.The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140062367563007272006-02-15T22:59:00.000-05:002006-02-15T22:59:00.000-05:00Godless circumcised consumer of cured porcine prod...Godless circumcised consumer of cured porcine products: <BR/>:)<BR/><BR/>I maintain my view that christian and moslem fundamentalists are not very different except for the power they wield. I know this from my conversations with current and former christians. I am also aware of the complete disdain that fundamentalist christians have for the Jews. If Billy Graham became king of the US, I would get myself and my family out in a hurry.<BR/><BR/>BTW, the articles you posted recently in your blog are excellent, thank you for sharing!The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140061768555201672006-02-15T22:49:00.000-05:002006-02-15T22:49:00.000-05:00Atheologist: Thank you for your kind words. If his...Atheologist: Thank you for your kind words. If history has taught us anything, it is that the church should never be allowed to have any power whatsoever in the state.The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140061499128867852006-02-15T22:44:00.000-05:002006-02-15T22:44:00.000-05:00Mary: You are an inspiration. I wish you luck in a...Mary: You are an inspiration. I wish you luck in all your endeavors. Thanks for stopping by.<BR/><BR/>Stacey: Things are different in the bible belt aren't they? Send a friend into church one day to find out what they say about the Jews when outsiders aren't listening.<BR/>Also, thanks for the compliment!The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140056035549560342006-02-15T21:13:00.000-05:002006-02-15T21:13:00.000-05:00I agree that Christian fundamentalists are coming ...I agree that Christian fundamentalists are coming from the same place as Muslim fundamentalists, <BR/>there means might be different, but their intent and mission are the same - one true religion.Post-Denom Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13961559293458440725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18807055.post-1140041898434518852006-02-15T17:18:00.000-05:002006-02-15T17:18:00.000-05:00Bacon: Move to Texas and you will be singing anot...Bacon: Move to Texas and you will be singing another tune.Staceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05548101428086781420noreply@blogger.com